Mobileread
General Book Uploads Posting Guidelines
#91  lumpynose 08-06-2019, 05:50 PM
Quote DaleDe
This site does not follow the US rules which is what you are quoting. The site owner is worried about His personal liability and thus we use his rules. Check our wiki for Copyright@Wiki » and the page MobileRead@Wiki ».

Dale
Ok, thanks. I was guessing that it's life+70 given the location of the server but I didn't see it specifically stated in this thread.
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#92  j.p.s 08-07-2019, 01:12 PM
Quote lumpynose
Ok, thanks. I was guessing that it's life+70 given the location of the server but I didn't see it specifically stated in this thread.
The Notices at the top of every page in this thread isn't specific?

(Although the date could ude some updating.)
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#93  lumpynose 08-07-2019, 03:10 PM
Quote j.p.s
The Notices at the top of every page in this thread isn't specific?

(Although the date could ude some updating.)
There isn't anything in this particular thread about life+70 being the rule for uploads, that is, this thread we're reading titled "General Book Uploads Posting Guidelines." But yes, in all of the threads where a book has been uploaded it's there. What was sort of perplexing to me is, for example, the second post in the thread we're in, from HarryT titled "What is in the Public Domain?" where he explains the complexity of the copyright laws in the US. Perplexing because, on the one hand, the US laws don't matter for what's legal to upload here. But on the other hand, if I'm in the US, then I should know what's legal for me to download to my computer before I work on it and upload it here.

And then to add to my confusion, I saw some books on Project Gutenberg (which seems to follow the US copyright laws) where the author had died in the 1970s but were published in that period where they needed to have their copyright renewed and hadn't so they're PD. Being literal minded and with this thread talking about public domain, I was wondering perhaps if I could upload them and there is a different disclaimer for uploaded books that are public domain in the US. Which in retrospect doesn't make sense (now that I think about it) because the MobileRead server is in Switzerland (or Germany) so they have to conform to those laws.
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#94  j.p.s 08-07-2019, 04:44 PM
OK, I see that is confusing (but I still insist the "Notice" is at the top of every page in this particular thread, if not inside the over 12 year old posts at the start of the thread). Sometime in the years after the first posts and some years before now, the locations of mobileread servers changed from North America to Europe. Maybe a moderator or HarryT himself can be persuaded to add a message at the top of the first 2 posts that the information in those posts is somewhat obsolete.
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#95  lumpynose 08-07-2019, 07:01 PM
Quote j.p.s
OK, I see that is confusing (but I still insist the "Notice" is at the top of every page in this particular thread, if not inside the over 12 year old posts at the start of the thread). Sometime in the years after the first posts and some years before now, the locations of mobileread servers changed from North America to Europe. Maybe a moderator or HarryT himself can be persuaded to add a message at the top of the first 2 posts that the information in those posts is somewhat obsolete.
Even though I was reasonably sure that life+70 is the rule for uploads I wanted to ask the question so that anyone else like me who saw this thread and was wondering and assumed that this thread would have the answer may hopefully now see this answer. To me this is a bit of an odd thread since it never has, until now, explicitly said that the rule is life+70 (ignoring, for the sake of argument, that the uploads all have that notice on them). And it's a prominent thread.
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#96  pdurrant 08-08-2019, 04:24 AM
I've tweaked the first two posts. Please let me know if you think I've got anything wrong.
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#97  kcarscadden 01-30-2020, 02:33 PM
PDurrant, HarryT,

I think it would be useful to update post #2 to change the 1st para to:

For the purposes of MobileRead, only works where the author has been dead for 70 or more years are in the public domain. For example, in 2019, that's works where the author (and translator or illustrator if applicable) died before 1949. The reason for this is that the Mobileread servers are located in Europe, and Mobileread's owner wishes to follow Europe's copyright rules.

I think this change would be helpful for others, like me, that were confused by the following paragraphs that talked about, for example, U.S. rules, and then I couldn't find anything relevant in the thread until post #89.

Edited to add: I see this is discussed in various ways in many other postings on this forum, but I still think it would be useful to update this thread.
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#98  pdurrant 01-30-2020, 04:49 PM
Quote kcarscadden
PDurrant, HarryT,

I think it would be useful to update post #2
You're right. I'll take a look. [edit] Done.
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#99  j.p.s 01-30-2020, 07:10 PM
How about the Notice at the top of the page that says:

Please don't upload any book unless its author died before 1st Jan 1945, or it is licensed for free distribution
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#100  JSWolf 01-30-2020, 10:13 PM
And what else is needed to be added that eBook released under Creative Commons are also allowed.
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