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Ipad Mini 6 jelly scrolling problem
#1  hollowpoint 10-16-2021, 04:33 AM
Ipad Mini 6 reportedly has an intrinsic, annoying display issue called 'jelly scrolling' in portrait mode, due to the vertical orientation of the controller that drives the display. Apple has said it's 'by design' and the hardware will not be changed. Some users find it annoying enough to return their Mini, others think it's acceptable.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/ifixit-ipad-mini-teardown-attempts-to-explain-the-jelly-scrolling-effect/

I was about to upgrade my Mini 5 to a Mini 6, but decided to wait one more generation. Put me down in the group that finds this annoying, especially in such a pricey tablet. As a lot of the articles on this issue have said, many/most tablets have this issue to some degree, but things like higher refresh rates, and orientation of the hardware on the board, can mitigate this problem for most users. Unfortunately it's more noticeable in the Mini 6.
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#2  ilovejedd 10-16-2021, 08:36 PM
Have you actually tried the iPad mini 6 yourself?

I have one and I don't see it (jelly scroll) myself.
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#3  hollowpoint 10-16-2021, 08:41 PM
Picked one up in local Apple store and observed. Also there are the tech videos online showing the problem in real time for those who don't have access to one.

As mentioned, not every user finds it troublesome. It also depends on how you use the device.

I can see it to a degree even on my Mini 5, but it's never been enough of a problem that I found it detrimental. Most Mini 5 users did not seem to find this issue troubling, but I'm hearing a lot more on the Mini 6.
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#4  ilovejedd 10-16-2021, 08:49 PM
Quote hollowpoint
Picked one up in local Apple store and observed. Also there are the tech videos online showing the problem in real time for those who don't have access to one.

As mentioned, not every user finds it troublesome. It also depends on how you use the device.

I can see it to a degree even on my Mini 5, but it's never been enough of a problem that I found it detrimental. Most Mini 5 users did not seem to find this issue troubling, but I'm hearing a lot more on the Mini 6.
Yes, I was aware of the issue ever since the first Twitter post from Bohn. Again, not something I see. Even took a video and still don't see it in slo-mo.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/returning-my-ipad-mini-6.2313495/post-30363797

Honestly, it seems like it's only a big deal online while doing specific tests. Real world, I doubt most people would actually notice.
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#5  hollowpoint 10-16-2021, 09:26 PM
Quote ilovejedd
Yes, I was aware of the issue ever since the first Twitter post from Bohn. Again, not something I see. Even took a video and still don't see it in slo-mo.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/returning-my-ipad-mini-6.2313495/post-30363797

Honestly, it seems like it's only a big deal online while doing specific tests. Real world, I doubt most people would actually notice.
I disagree. You have Ipad fans including myself that although they WANT to buy the next-gen Ipad, are troubled enough by it that they are returning devices or holding off. I'm seeing reports of it everywhere in the tech press, user reviews on sites, at Amazon, etc.

The issue may not be bothersome to you, which is great. But it's real, folks aren't making it up.
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#6  ilovejedd 10-16-2021, 09:39 PM
Quote hollowpoint
I disagree. You have Ipad fans including myself that although they WANT to buy the next-gen Ipad, are troubled enough by it that they are returning devices or holding off. I'm seeing reports of it everywhere in the tech press, user reviews on sites, at Amazon, etc.

The issue may not be bothersome to you, which is great. But it's real, folks aren't making it up.
Tech press. Exactly. When it makes it to the 6 o'clock news (like #batterygate and butterfly keyboard), then I would agree the issue is mainstream.

I'm not saying anyone is making this up. Just saying it's likely not as big a deal in the real world as it is on tech enthusiast sites. There are those who are sensitive to the issue but the general population likely won't even notice.

It's like PWM. I'm sensitive to PWM and can't use Apple's OLED iPhones but I'm guessing I'm in the minority since they're still selling hundreds of millions of OLED iPhones.
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#7  Almamida 10-16-2021, 09:43 PM
Picked up an iPad mini and wasn’t bothered neither. People like to find the next thing to complain at every release of an Apple device. I don’t find it’s that much of a problem this time.
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#8  ilovejedd 10-16-2021, 11:04 PM
Quote hollowpoint
Sample of one, that settles everything. Good thinking Mom.

I'll trust the combination of...the store samples I looked it, the IFixit techs who torn down the board and reported on the crossways mounting of the controller, and the concerns of hundreds of actual users. For example, a large number reporting in forums like this.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ipad-mini-6-jelly-scrolling.2313178/
I've seen that thread since the beginning and iirc, it's just the same 20 or so members complaining. I believe there are more posts on that thread of folks who aren't bothered or don't notice the issue. I'm guessing it'd be easier to find those hundreds who are bothered on reddit.

Heck, there was even a guy who wanted to open a class action lawsuit.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/class-action-lawsuit-against-apple-for-jelly-scrolling.2315053/

Again, I'm not saying there's no jelly scroll. The thing is I'm guessing majority of iPad buyers just don't have the visual sensitivity to even notice this issue.

Hundreds or even thousands of complaints is kind of a drop in a bucket when compared to what is likely millions of iPad mini 6 Apple is selling.
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#9  hollowpoint 10-17-2021, 04:02 AM
You're a loyal soldier, I'll give you that.

What bothers me is Apple's level of corporate denial: don't believe your lyin' eyes. It's a feature not a bug.

Honestly, phuck those guys. And I say that as a person who works at a tech company whose market capitalization exceeds the GDP of some first-world countries, and is guilty of throwing up the same type of BS smokescreens, at times.
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#10  ilovejedd 10-17-2021, 10:55 AM
Quote hollowpoint
You're a loyal soldier, I'll give you that.
Not really. Just pragmatic.

For those affected/sensitive, at least the jelly scroll is something that's easily noticeable within the return period. Depending on how much it will cost to redesign the board/panel layout, it could possibly get fixed in the next generation.

Meanwhile, the bright spot that develops on 10.5" iPads after 12+ months is a result of a design defect and Apple really should've offered a repair program for that. Alas, 10.5" iPad owners out of warranty period are left out in the cold.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/bright-spot-on-ipad-pro-10-5-screen.2115037/
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