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#191  HarryT 03-01-2016, 12:36 PM
Stop being a pain in the ass, Jon. This discussion is closed.
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#192  Ralph Sir Edward 03-05-2016, 07:08 PM
Quote pynch
Talking about the offline forums: where’s Saint-Exupéry? He died in 1944, but his Le petit Prince hasn’t been put back online yet.

My best recommendation is to re-upload the copy if:

1) You already have a copy
and
2) You are in a life + 70 (or Life + 50) country.

(You know the old saw..."if you want something done, do it yourself...")
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#193  Jellby 03-06-2016, 02:29 AM
Quote Ralph Sir Edward
My best recommendation is to re-upload the copy
Don't do that unless you are uploading a different version in some way (different format, better formatting/illustrations).

The offline books are still part of the system (the files are not deleted, just disabled), and we don't want duplicates. If you need/want a particular book moved back online, just tell us. (I didn't move "Le petit prince" before because I didn't take the question as such a request).
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#194  pynch 03-06-2016, 03:04 AM
They need to be requested now? Mentioning them is not enough? Any specific wording you’d prefer for the request?
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#195  mmat1 04-02-2016, 08:43 AM
Arthur Conan Doyle - Jellands Voyage

The short story is first published 1892 in the Magazine "Harper's Weekly" and later in collections like "Round the Fireplace Stories (1908)".

I've the impression, that there are two different versions of the Story:
- a more detailed one, probably the "original"
- and a shorter Version, which is published in all Story Collections.

The shorter Version starts with "Well, said our Anglo-Jap as we all drew up our chairs ..." and can be found everywhere.

I'm looking for a source of the detailed Version (and will not hesitate to publish ist as E-Pub, if I only can get it ).

Can anybody point out a source?
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#196  Doitsu 04-08-2016, 06:00 AM
Quote mmat1
I've the impression, that there are two different versions of the Story:
- a more detailed one, probably the "original"
- and a shorter Version, which is published in all Story Collections.
You're probably mistaken. According to the ACD Encyclopedia, several Round the Fire Stories were shortened, but Jelland's Voyage is not one of them.

It was first published in the 12 November 1892 edition of Harper's Weekly, which isn't available online.

Maybe someone who can access this edition through their library can double-check this for you.
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#197  mmat1 04-08-2016, 12:54 PM
Hello Doitsu,
Quote Doitsu
You're probably mistaken. According to the ACD Encyclopedia, several Round the Fire Stories were shortened, but Jelland's Voyage is not one of them.
As far as I understood, only the titles are shortened (by omitting "The story of ...")

Quote Doitsu
It was first published in the 12 November 1892 edition of Harper's Weekly, which isn't available online.

Maybe someone who can access this edition through their library can double-check this for you.
There are early publications in:
- Phil May's Illustrated Winter Annual (winter 1892 [UK])
- Success (3 august 1895)

Some of Phil May's are available, but not the 1892 edition.


And yes, the version in the book is shortened. How could I know? I got the german translation of the long version and I really don't believe, that all this additional text is added by the Translator.

Maybe I find it, one day ....

vg, mm
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#198  doubleshuffle 04-08-2016, 01:20 PM
Quote mmat1
How could I know? I got the german translation of the long version and I really don't believe, that all this additional text is added by the Translator.
You never know these things. There's an English translation of Grimms' tales floating somewhere on the web which manages to have 20 or 30 percent more words than the original and the brilliant translation by Margaret Hunt.
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#199  mmat1 04-09-2016, 03:12 AM
Quote doubleshuffle
You never know these things. There's an English translation of Grimms' tales floating somewhere on the web which manages to have 20 or 30 percent more words than the original and the brilliant translation by Margaret Hunt.
Well, but it's not only a translation with some addional words, it's Doyle's style as well ... I still don't belief, that this is the work of the translator. But who knows? Thats why I'm looking for the first edition.
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#200  Jellby 04-09-2016, 08:18 AM
There are some Harper's Weekly volumes in archive.org, but I reckon we'd need volume 36 (1892), and the latest I found is volume 14 (1870).

Hathi Trust has some content, but nothing from 1892.

It may be found in the Library of Congress or in Indiana University

Or someone could buy it (http://www.abebooks.com/HARPERS-WEEKLY-November-1892-Original-Complete/753342040/bd, http://antiques.gift/harpers-weekly-november-12-1892-original-complete-issue-_3904520.html)

There's a PDF here with what could be the cover page of the magazine, but the text is probably the same source as elsewhere.
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