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#81  GrannyGrump 10-11-2016, 11:47 AM
I'm not sure if this comment is apropos, but when I add "extras" to a rehabbed public domain book, I include a statement on this order:
"The original text of this book is in the public domain in countries where copyright is "Life+70" or less [or whatever the time span since the death of the author]. Additional material [usually footnotes/annotations] and cover design are released under the Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial ShareAlike 4.0 License."

Which, if downloaders are honorable folk, means they should only redistribute the book free of charge and attribute me for the additional material and original cover design. Doesn't mean that will happen though. There is a certain **@$%/* who scrapes the MR and other free libraries and sells the books he gathers on the Kobo site for a few dollars each. What a horse's patoot!
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#82  Psymon 10-21-2016, 03:52 AM
Quote GrannyGrump
I'm not sure if this comment is apropos, but when I add "extras" to a rehabbed public domain book, I include a statement on this order:
"The original text of this book is in the public domain in countries where copyright is "Life+70" or less [or whatever the time span since the death of the author]. Additional material [usually footnotes/annotations] and cover design are released under the Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial ShareAlike 4.0 License."
The copyright notice that I ultimately came up for this current Shakespeare book I've been working on is, I suppose, a little more restrictive. The guy over on that aforementioned copyright forum seemed to feel it served it's purpose, though.

Here's what I have now in my book:

"This ebook copyright © Ron Koster, 2016. All images — including the cover art and all other original digital artwork, as well as public domain images modified and manipulated specifically for use in this ebook — are copyright Ron Koster. The six Shakespearean plays in this book originate from public domain sources, with modifications mainly to formatting and only minor conformity in word (name) spelling. The various poems — including those accredited to Shakespeare, as well as The Ghost of Lucrece by Thomas Middleton, and the complete Loves Martyr of Robert Chester — are new digital transcriptions by Ron Koster made directly from the original 16th and 17th century sources, with a variety of textual corrections and emendations made throughout each poetic work. For any activities regulated by copyright, written permission from the copyright holder is required."

I suppose that provides more info than just a mere copyright notice, but I guess it serves its purpose in making clear what was "my" work and what is purely public domain stuff.

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Which, if downloaders are honorable folk, means they should only redistribute the book free of charge and attribute me for the additional material and original cover design. Doesn't mean that will happen though. There is a certain **@$%/* who scrapes the MR and other free libraries and sells the books he gathers on the Kobo site for a few dollars each. What a horse's patoot!
Sheesh. If that person is doing this on a regular basis, why doesn't anyone go after him?

Reminds me of when I was working on my series of books on the works of Henry David Thoreau. I'd downloaded a variety of free versions from different sources, just to get ideas from how others had done things, and they were ALL basically just the ones put out by Project Gutenberg, with perhaps the most notable difference in design, etc. being the addition of a publisher's imprint -- fer cryin' out loud.

How these people can even call themselves a "publisher," when they've done virtually no work at all, is beyond me.
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#83  HarryT 10-21-2016, 04:00 AM
Quote Psymon
Sheesh. If that person is doing this on a regular basis, why doesn't anyone go after him?
Because he's doing nothing illegal. Despicable - yes. Immoral - yes. Illegal - no.
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#84  Psymon 10-21-2016, 04:09 AM
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Because he's doing nothing illegal. Despicable - yes. Immoral - yes. Illegal - no.
As soon as I posted my last comment that hit me, too.
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#85  Jellby 10-21-2016, 10:51 AM
Quote Psymon
I'd downloaded a variety of free versions from different sources, just to get ideas from how others had done things, and they were ALL basically just the ones put out by Project Gutenberg, with perhaps the most notable difference in design, etc. being the addition of a publisher's imprint -- fer cryin' out loud.
It's bad enough when you are trying to get ideas... It's awful when you want to correct or double-check possible mistakes in PG sources. You try to check other versions and virtually all have the same blatant errors, even those which are scans from recently published versions. Almost anything in Google Books published after ~2000 is useless for this.

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How these people can even call themselves a "publisher," when they've done virtually no work at all, is beyond me.
They are publishers, not editors: they publish, they don't edit
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#86  Psymon 10-31-2016, 01:40 AM
After aaaaaaaaall that, I just uploaded my completed book to the EPUB uploads here on these forums, if you'd like to take a peek at what all the hubbub (my hubbub) was about.
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#87  grumbles 03-22-2017, 07:23 PM
I thought I would stroll through this forum before I started to post my Markham books.

In regard to publishers claiming copyright of text that is in the public Domain, I came across this notice in an Evelyn Waugh ebook I took out from the library:

All rights reserved.
This title is in the public domain in Canada and is not subject to any license or copyright.

This is Penguin Random House Canada publication.

I've been looking at work of Wilfred Owen. His poems are clearly in the public domain now but the notes and essays in the books of his work are all under copyright. Siegried Sassoon who died in 1967 will enter public domain in Canada next year but will be inaccessible to MR until 2038.

I see that the contents of the first, short book of poems has been posted. I have the later Collected Poems and the structure of some of the poems in the first book was changed for the Collected version. The Collected Poems is available from the Indian Digital collection (but two pages are missing). I'll thin about it but the notes really do add to the value of the collection.
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#88  pdurrant 03-23-2017, 06:31 AM
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I'll thin about it but the notes really do add to the value of the collection.
And the notes will have a longer copyright than the poems. Once the poems enter the public domain, you can reprint them. But not with the copyright notes.
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#89  lumpynose 08-06-2019, 04:13 PM
For posting a book here is the rule always life+70?

What about something where the author died in 1977 but the books fall under

"Anything published between 1923 and 1963, with a copyright notice, for which copyright was NOT specifically renewed, is PD."

The books are on Project Gutenberg so I'm assuming that they fall under that rule.
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#90  DaleDe 08-06-2019, 04:46 PM
Quote lumpynose
For posting a book here is the rule always life+70?

What about something where the author died in 1977 but the books fall under

"Anything published between 1923 and 1963, with a copyright notice, for which copyright was NOT specifically renewed, is PD."

The books are on Project Gutenberg so I'm assuming that they fall under that rule.
This site does not follow the US rules which is what you are quoting. The site owner is worried about His personal liability and thus we use his rules. Check our wiki for Copyright@Wiki » and the page MobileRead@Wiki ».

Dale
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