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Tips and tricks for Calibre
#1  Thasaidon 11-11-2020, 09:21 PM
I think it would be useful to have a "tips and tricks for Calibre " folder in the stickies.

I also think that ONLy tricks and tips should be permitted in it and perhaps an index of the items.

One of the problems I have with the other "tips and tricks: forums is that specific tips are buried in discussion about a tip which obscures the actual tip.

I would suggest an ordinary thread be started for each tip and after any discussion is ended the mods be asked to move the finalised tip to the sticky.

What do other people think?
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#2  Bookstooge 11-12-2020, 02:28 AM
My only concern is the proliferation of "stickies", which most people seem to ignore anyway.
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#3  Thasaidon 11-12-2020, 06:03 AM
Quote Bookstooge
My only concern is the proliferation of "stickies", which most people seem to ignore anyway.
You have a real point there.
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#4  compurandom 11-12-2020, 08:55 AM
You could also do a wiki page for this...

If you're not comfortable starting a wiki page, if you can collect enough of your "tips and tricks" in this thread, I can start the page.
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#5  theducks 11-12-2020, 12:48 PM
Quote Bookstooge
My only concern is the proliferation of "stickies", which most people seem to ignore anyway.
I agree, there are too many stickies per forum and important stuff gets lost.
I also have observed that they do not always get read

Way back when... I was taught the 'rule of 6'.
Screen Menu's should be limited to 6 items (not just a space thing) to keep a easy to hit target
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#6  ownedbycats 11-12-2020, 01:37 PM
Quote Bookstooge
My only concern is the proliferation of "stickies", which most people seem to ignore anyway.
cough the DeDRM thread....
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#7  BetterRed 11-12-2020, 05:23 PM
Quote Thasaidon
I think it would be useful to have a "tips and tricks for Calibre " folder in the stickies.

I also think that ONLy tricks and tips should be permitted in it and perhaps an index of the items.

One of the problems I have with the other "tips and tricks: forums is that specific tips are buried in discussion about a tip which obscures the actual tip.

I would suggest an ordinary thread be started for each tip and after any discussion is ended the mods be asked to move the finalised tip to the sticky.

What do other people think?
You would lose a lot of value if the discussion that led to a 'finalised tip" was discarded, especially if people post variants and alternatives within the discussion.

On the other hand if topics are merged on a linear forum platform like VBulletin you lose the flow of a 'discussion' if other 'discussions' overlap in time. As occurs in some of the existing open sticky threads.

If MR moved to a multi-threaded platform, as was mooted at one time**, then you could do what you want; e.g. by collapsing all threads within a topic you have an index, another advantage is that newcomers can seek clarification by adding a post to an existing thread.

** IIRC Xenforo was mentioned.

An alternative is a sticky list of links to threads, such as these ==>> Index of Useful Links for Book Creators and Useful Related Tools Threads

BR
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#8  compurandom 11-13-2020, 02:24 AM
Quote BetterRed
You would lose a lot of value if the discussion that led to a 'finalised tip" was discarded, especially if people post variants and alternatives within the discussion.
My approach in the wiki would be to summarize the "trick" enough so that it could be used, and link to the original discussion if someone wants more details, but if it's already in the wiki or in the calibre documentation, just mention it and link to it.

Think of it like a curated version of your sticky list of links to threads, except that more than one person can edit it, and it might be a bit better organized and formatted.

At least, that would be the goal.

Really, the calibre documentation is fairly good and does mention a lot of this stuff, but I've found a few cases there it wasn't well organized, and the parts needed to make a "trick" work were scattered over multiple sections.

I suppose at some point, it might be better to add some things directly to the calibre documentation instead. Maybe the goal here should be to collect recipes of sorts and link to explanations in the forum and in the calibre documentation?
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#9  ownedbycats 11-14-2020, 03:17 PM
It's possible to copy and paste between timestamp fields, even if they're of different formats. (This was implemented due to one of my requests a few months ago. ) I use this mostly to copy the #filedate (from GetFileName plugin) to the date-added column.
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#10  Thasaidon 11-15-2020, 12:23 AM
Quote compurandom
My approach in the wiki would be to summarize the "trick" enough so that it could be used, and link to the original discussion if someone wants more details, but if it's already in the wiki or in the calibre documentation, just mention it and link to it.

Think of it like a curated version of your sticky list of links to threads, except that more than one person can edit it, and it might be a bit better organized and formatted.

At least, that would be the goal.

Really, the calibre documentation is fairly good and does mention a lot of this stuff, but I've found a few cases there it wasn't well organized, and the parts needed to make a "trick" work were scattered over multiple sections.

I suppose at some point, it might be better to add some things directly to the calibre documentation instead. Maybe the goal here should be to collect recipes of sorts and link to explanations in the forum and in the calibre documentation?
I think you have outlined a good process.

1. Member posts a trick or tip as an ordinary thread in the Calibre forum.
2. Other members may discuss it or come up with variations.
3. When discussion has finished the trick to be summarised (with any relevant variations).
4.The Summarised trick to be put in the Wiki and made the last post of its' thread..
5. A sticky containing an index of the tips and tricks to be updated.

The summarised tricks in the Wiki could then be used by Kovid as a resource when updating the Calibre Manual.

All in all this should not be too much work especially if we have two or three people working on it.

I am willing devote some time to summarizing the tips and tricks as they crop up and updating the index.

However I am in the Philippines and our ISPs are crap. Recently the broadband speed in our area suddenly dropped to something like early dial up speeds. This meant I was unable to log on to many sites. MobileRead was one of the few sites I could log on to and it could take five minutes to do that!
Then just as suddenly after a couple of weeks the the speed went back to normal.

So any further comments? And are any other people willing to join a team to run thiis .
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