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#11  Catlady 04-29-2019, 01:23 PM
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If you're interested in selling one at a normal used unit price (not the eBay scalping prices - ugh!) then let me know.
How about a Clip Sport with a broken clip? If interested, PM me.
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#12  haertig 04-29-2019, 02:54 PM
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How about a Clip Sport with a broken clip? If interested, PM me.
Thanks for the offer. But I am looking for one that will run Rockbox 3rd party firmware. That is the original Clip, the Clip Zip, and the Clip+. Unfortunately none of the other (newer) Clip versions will run Rockbox. Then the problem becomes, once you find one of these older Clip versions that will run Rockbox, how is the battery? Most are already dead, or on their last legs.

I'm afraid that I will not find a satisfactory old Clip (me, and the 5 bazillion other Rockbox uses that are searching for one!) So I'm hoping that some new MP3 player will have good firmware for listening to audiobooks built-in, so as not to require Rockbox. But many of the newer MP3 players I have researched just don't lend themselves to audiobooks. They lack the ability to bookmark, for example. Or the FF and REW are so slow that it would take forever to move your place in a book. Or they are made so cheaply and function so intermittently that they are mostly unusable. That is the case with the Ruizu player that I just bought (I think it's probably a quality control thing with intermittent buttons), but also, the firmware just does not function logically - but you could probably use the illogical software if you had no other choice.
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#13  Catlady 04-29-2019, 03:27 PM
Oh well. I have several Clip Zips, but I don't want to part with them.

I tried Rockbox once--I think on an old Clip+ I no longer have--and just hated it, though I can't remember why. Clearly I am in the minority!
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#14  haertig 04-29-2019, 05:34 PM
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I tried Rockbox once--I think on an old Clip+ I no longer have--and just hated it, though I can't remember why. Clearly I am in the minority!
Rockbox is actually overly complex IMHO. If you're not a geeky engineer (like me!) then it probably is not ones cup of tea.

I actually use only a small bit of Rockboxs features. Namely, the configuration part. e.g., I can configure it to automatically set a bookmark whenever I turn off the player. e.g., I can configure it so that the forward and back buttons will never skip to the next or previous track (otherwise it is very easy to accidentally hit a button wrongly and loose you place in the audiobook). e.g., I can configure how much time forward and back a button push will change the audiobook position. e.g., I can configure it to automatically rewind my place in the audiobook XYZ amount of time when I first turn on the MP3 player after not having used it in a while (so I can rehear and reorient myself as to what recently happened in the audiobook). e.g., I can configure what the display says (default is normally to display how far forward you have played in a track, but I want it to display how far I've gone AND how much time I have left at the same time). e.g., I can configure it to display my battery remaining time in percent (a number) rather than as a battery icon with only a rough estimate of power remaining.

It's all this configurability that makes Rockbox so good. Actually using it - the user interface - is maybe too complex however. This is the tradeoff ... more configurability almost always means more complexity in software. This is why engineers love Rockbox, and normal people hate it!
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#15  silverraven 04-29-2019, 10:23 PM
My son found a brand new in the box Clip + at the Goodwill computer store last week. So far the battery is as good as the ones I bought when they were still being made. I'm a happy mama!
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Oh, I didn't like Rockbox either. I just don't need all that, I'm happy with the standard firmware on the Sansas.
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#16  cromag 05-24-2019, 05:49 PM
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I have several Zip's and Plus's. I find myself using them less each day and using my Echos and phones as my primary listening devices.
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If you're interested in selling one at a normal used unit price (not the eBay scalping prices - ugh!) then let me know.
If you're in the US I assume you know about the Goodwill auction site: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/

The MP3 player section is dominated by Ipods, but various Clips come up on a fairly regular basis. You'll be buying "as is" so read the descriptions carefully



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Rockbox is actually overly complex IMHO. If you're not a geeky engineer (like me!) then it probably is not ones cup of tea.
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As long as you're a geeky computer engineer you might also consider picking up an Iriver H320 or H360 player. When they come up at Goodwill they're usually in the $15 to $20 range. They're fairly easy to open. A new battery will cost about $20, and you can replace the hard drive with a Compact Flash card and adapter (instructions are at the Rockbox site). It's a bit of a challenge, but it's not too bad. The capacity of the CF card will affect the price, but you can do it for under $100 and a day's work. I've done this a couple of times.

I only use mine to listen to music, but Rockbox is pretty uniform across platforms. The Rockbox for Iriiver manual is online if you want to check.
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