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#11  NatCh 06-25-2007, 12:39 AM
Quote CharlieBird
This is my first post. I have been reading your forum for some 10 or 11 months. Even though it is frequently too technical for me, I have learned much and I thank you all.
Welcome to MobileRead, CharlieBird! Glad you came into the light.
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#12  wallcraft 06-25-2007, 09:24 PM
Quote JSWolf
So given what I've posted, what would be the best file types from Book Designer to post for Mobipocket and FBReader? What I've posted seems to be the best we can do at the moment.
The best for MobiPocket is the "Mobipocket" version. The best for FBReader is the FB2 version. A good MobiPocket version would be essentially equal in capability to the FB2 version, but Book Designer apparently provides better support for FB2 than MobiPocket.

I'm not sure which other readers support the FB2 format, and whether it is worth producing a FB2 version just for FBReader. The existing MobiPocket version may be "good enough" for both MobiPocket Reader and FBReader.
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#13  JSWolf 06-26-2007, 09:38 AM
As long as Fictiobook can read the MobiPocket version, I think that would be best. One copy and both programs can read it. All we need do is make sure each book has an internal ToC since the MobiPocet converter doesn't create an external one like it does for BBeB (LRF) and FB2.
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#14  The GreatGonzo 06-28-2007, 10:37 AM
I could really use a nicely formatted version of the complete libretti of Gilbert & Sullivan. The Project Gutenberg download is one big text file and therefore next to useless for comic opera lovers. I could use something with a table of contents, italics, proper indenting etc ... Oh dear - the more I think about it, the more work it is... darn ...
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#15  henkvdg 06-28-2007, 10:51 AM
Quote The GreatGonzo
I could really use a nicely formatted version of the complete libretti of Gilbert & Sullivan. The Project Gutenberg download is one big text file and therefore next to useless for comic opera lovers. I could use something with a table of contents, italics, proper indenting etc ... Oh dear - the more I think about it, the more work it is... darn ...
Could I help?

Do you mean this one: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/cpogs10.txt
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#16  The GreatGonzo 06-28-2007, 11:21 AM
Quote henkvdg
Could I help?

Do you mean this one: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/cpogs10.txt

Yup, that's the one...

I've even considered looking into buying a nice version of this from Fictionwise or Mobipocket, but I really can't bring myself to pay for a public domain title - even if it's nicely formatted and laid out....
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#17  HarryT 06-30-2007, 05:10 AM
Quote The GreatGonzo

I've even considered looking into buying a nice version of this from Fictionwise or Mobipocket, but I really can't bring myself to pay for a public domain title - even if it's nicely formatted and laid out....
So what are you saying? That you're happy for us to spend hours creating nice versions of these books for you to download free of charge, but you're unwilling to pay for the results of such labour?

Presumably, by extension, you'd also never pay for printed versions of out-of-copyright authors, either?

Sorry - I don't mean to be rude, but those of us who create books put a great deal of time and effort into it, and it would be nice to think that all that work is perceived as having at least some value.

Why not have a go at creating a nice Mobi version of the book you mentioned yourself, using "Book Designer"? Might give you an appreciation of how much work we put into creating all these book that are available for download .

Personally I'd be more than happy to pay for a nice version of an out-of-copyright book, because I know just how much effort it takes to change the raw text PG original into a nice book.
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#18  JSWolf 06-30-2007, 06:53 AM
Quote The GreatGonzo
Yup, that's the one...

I've even considered looking into buying a nice version of this from Fictionwise or Mobipocket, but I really can't bring myself to pay for a public domain title - even if it's nicely formatted and laid out....
I have a feeling you will either need to purchase the printed edition, or do the conversion yourself. That one would be a tough conversion. I did have a look and it's going to be not easy to do. If there was an HTML version, then maybe it would not be as hard to deal with.
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#19  The GreatGonzo 06-30-2007, 08:26 PM
Quote HarryT
So what are you saying? That you're happy for us to spend hours creating nice versions of these books for you to download free of charge, but you're unwilling to pay for the results of such labour?
Nope. The question was, what titles would people like to see available, and that's the question I answered. If you would rather sell the e-book editions that you create, then don't make them available for free. I'm not entirely clear on why I'm being yelled at here. Somebody asked, I answered.

Quote HarryT
Presumably, by extension, you'd also never pay for printed versions of out-of-copyright authors, either?
Not anymore, no. That's the whole point of out-of-copyright and e-books and Project Gutenberg.

Quote HarryT
Sorry - I don't mean to be rude, but those of us who create books put a great deal of time and effort into it, and it would be nice to think that all that work is perceived as having at least some value.
In no way did I mean to diminish the work and time you put in creating these.
I just don't feel like paying any kind of professional publisher for an out-of-copyright work, no matter how nicely it's put together. A private person, somebody who does it on the side, even as a hobby - different matter altogether. There could conceivably be donations, a Paypal reimbursement scheme of sorts - sure, why not. I'm not at all opposed to that.

Quote HarryT
Why not have a go at creating a nice Mobi version of the book you mentioned yourself, using "Book Designer"? Might give you an appreciation of how much work we put into creating all these book that are available for download .
I would, if my precious spare time wasn't totally taken up with trying to put together a complete volume of Lovecraft which, by the way, I would love to upload once it's done, were it not for the fact that I'm mightily confused about his copyright status in the US. And that's just without the illustrations.

Hope this clears thing up.
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#20  The GreatGonzo 06-30-2007, 08:37 PM
Quote JSWolf
I did have a look and it's going to be not easy to do. If there was an HTML version, then maybe it would not be as hard to deal with.
Oh, I know - I looked into it before I asked if somebody else felt like doing it.
I converted it from A to B to C and back ... looked awful and useless every time.
I was kinda hoping somebody you knew a fast and efficient way to do it that I wasn't aware of.

BUt as far as I can see now, the best way to do it would be to edit and re-format it as an RTF or DOC file, page by page - in which case you might want to start thinking about including Gilbert's illustrations. Then put in bookmarks and TOC. But like I said in another post, I just don't have the time right now. Sadly.

If nobody has done one by the time I get around to it and if there's interest, I will gladly give it a shot myself.
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