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The ebook experience
#1  pwalker8 01-03-2020, 06:31 PM
We have most likely discussed a lot of this, but what improvements do you want when it comes to eBooks?

Personally, I'm fine with the actual reading experience of using Marvin on an the bigger iPad Pro. I was fine with CC as an eBook library connecting to Calibre prior to this Fall's catastrophe with regards to CC (I still regularly donate to Calibre on a regular basis after using if since the beginning, just because it's so useful).

I'm still waiting for the buying and discovery process to show some sort of improvement. Right now, it's pretty much regressed from where it was a decade ago (when we at least had authoralert). Way back when, I expected the buying experience to be much more personalized. Authoralert style lists of authors that I like, where I'm notified when an author comes out with a new book or an older book finally makes it to eBooks. Amazon claims to have this with author follows, but it really only seems to work sporadically at best, at least for me.

I also expected recommendations to be better. Right now, Amazon seems to use it mostly to push books that they are being paid to pimp, or Amazon Unlimited or unique to Amazon eBooks. At one time, I could add and remove books from my recommended list, but that seems to have gone by the way side. I also expected much better filtering systems, so I'm presented with books that actually interest me rather than 10 pages of porn, PD books and indie authors who know how to game the system.

Just to add a bit, after doing a few chores, I had hoped when the Apple book store relaunched this year that Apple would push the envelop enough to give Amazon some competition, but so far, I've been underwhelmed by the new Apple store. As is normal for Apple, it seems to be oriented to the 80% majority rather than the power buyer. There are a couple of nifty features, but those features are purely available for eBooks (and audiobooks) purchased from Apple. In addition there seems to be little ability to edit meta data and the catalogue is considerably smaller than Amazon's. All in all, Apple gives me little reason to switch from Amazon and little hope that it will provide meaningful competition for Amazon.
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#2  Sirtel 01-03-2020, 06:40 PM
I hvave never had any problems with discovery process. I don't need any recommendations or author alerts or anything like that. I just browse new ebooks in my favorite genres a few times a year and decide for myself what I want to buy. Works for me. Yes, there's a lot of romance and erotica pushed at you, but it's easy to look past them, as they generally have covers that give them away at a glance. I buy a lot of indie authors, so I have no beef with them and I don't want them filtered out.
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#3  JSWolf 01-03-2020, 06:50 PM
I would like better formatting of eBooks. Overall, the major publishers to a fairly poor job.
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#4  barryem 01-03-2020, 09:10 PM
I realize this is wishful thinking but I'd love to see ereaders not be sold by booksellers but by hardware companies, in the same way phones and tablets are now. That way we would have a lot more variety in our devices, larger, smaller, with buttons, without buttons, waterproof, not waterproof and we'd be able to pick the one that fit us best and then buy books from any store we choose.

Personally I'd pick an e-ink ereader the size of my phone. Someone else might want an ereader that's extra large. We'd all be able to get what we want and buy books for it on any store without converting.

Of course it's not going to happen in this universe so I guess I'm also wishing for an alternate universe. Maybe some of you have the physics background to help with that.

Barry
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#5  DiapDealer 01-03-2020, 09:49 PM
Everything's working well enough for my needs. On both the reading and discovery side of things. I'm having no difficulty locating the next book I want to read in very short order.
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#6  Uncle Robin 01-03-2020, 10:01 PM
My only concern for "the ebook experience" is the relentless push from both Kobo and Amazon to audiobooks. I prefer DIY dentistry to audiobooks, but already actual ebooks seem like the neglected stepchild for the big retailers, who seem to have decided that everyone either already loves audiobooks or damn well ought to.
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#7  crane3 01-03-2020, 10:28 PM
Quote Uncle Robin
My only concern for "the ebook experience" is the relentless push from both Kobo and Amazon to audiobooks. I prefer DIY dentistry to audiobooks, but already actual ebooks seem like the neglected stepchild for the big retailers, who seem to have decided that everyone either already loves audiobooks or damn well ought to.
audiobooks are like want to be "driverless cars". no concern about honoring the publishers' format no matter how bad it is. no page turn considerations of buttons or no. no griping about page numbers or lack of. no fonts or font sizing griping. there is grumbling about a need of an adapter for the usb to headphone connection......

it is all plug & go! no need to pay attention.......
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#8  pwalker8 01-04-2020, 08:16 AM
Quote barryem
I realize this is wishful thinking but I'd love to see ereaders not be sold by booksellers but by hardware companies, in the same way phones and tablets are now. That way we would have a lot more variety in our devices, larger, smaller, with buttons, without buttons, waterproof, not waterproof and we'd be able to pick the one that fit us best and then buy books from any store we choose.

Personally I'd pick an e-ink ereader the size of my phone. Someone else might want an ereader that's extra large. We'd all be able to get what we want and buy books for it on any store without converting.

Of course it's not going to happen in this universe so I guess I'm also wishing for an alternate universe. Maybe some of you have the physics background to help with that.

Barry
I pretty much agree with you on that, but the model is to tie a book store to a reading device or app while allowing side loading.
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#9  Quoth 01-04-2020, 08:21 AM
Audiobooks is biggest growth. NOT a replacement for ebooks and really nothing to do with them. They have existed since 1899 (records) and in Hungary or Austria (I think) from before 1914 as "streaming" (really like broadcast radio but on wires) over the phone as audio.

Drivers, cyclists, joggers, gym sessions etc fuels the demand for Audio books. Originally it was mostly blind or poor sight or illiterate users.

My only interest is making audio books because I only go out shopping or visiting nearby and I don't drive long distances, cycle, jog or gym. I prefer reading to audio books.

eBooks are not going to either dominate or go away.
We still have Radio (nearly 100 years of Public Broadcast), physical copies of recorded sound (over 120 years), TV (since 1936), retail physical copies of recorded video (nearly 50 years, earlier domestic versions of movie film was retailed to rich people).
Internet, Streaming etc hasn't and won't kill them.
Note almost every mainstream streaming video service except YouTube is running at a real loss to try and get customers from Disc, Satellite Pay TV and Cable Pay TV. It costs 1,000 times to a 100,000 less to run a Satellite TV channel than stream. YouTube makes a profit because much content is smaller, poorer quality and funding from stealing personal data and selling adverts (It's Google).
Amazon's Video is sofa change compare to their Data Hosting (AWS profits). Even Amazon's entire retail dwarfs their video which is dwarfed now by AWS.

Netflix, like Uber (loses money per ride, makes money from data captured) is based on fantasy economics and collecting personal data. Both hope to put up the price when the opposition is gone, except now Netflix has streaming competitors.
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#10  lazyreadr 01-04-2020, 08:41 AM
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I'm still waiting for the buying and discovery process to show some sort of improvement. Right now, it's pretty much regressed from where it was a decade ago (when we at least had authoralert).
I'd much prefer to be able to freely choose my shop and be able to buy (almost) any ebook hassle-free (which includes DRM free, but is not limited to it) there.

Alas, to some degree they make the same mistakes as the music industry.
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