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#31  tomsem 06-05-2019, 03:05 PM
Virtualization of previous version(s) of macOS may be an option to maintain ability to run old apps. It’s explicitly allowed by Apple.
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#32  tomsem 06-05-2019, 03:08 PM
Also: you’ll be able to purchase fonts in App Store. I am looking forward to being able to use these in reading apps, etc.
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#33  tomsem 06-05-2019, 03:19 PM
Quote Dylrob
Well unless they’ve changed something in iOS 13, you unfortunately cannot import files into built-in music, video, or podcast apps from iCloud, nor set custom ringtones from it. (You can play files from iCloud, but it won’t remember where you left off)
My take was that import (from attached storage) is not restricted to Photos as in the past. So you could carry around a thumb drive with all of your books on it, etc., mp3 files etc.

It’s up to app developers to support import for the files they want to work with. Presumably most will add this capability quickly.
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#34  tomsem 06-05-2019, 03:21 PM
Found this podcast episode a great start at digesting things:

https://www.relay.fm/upgrade/248
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#35  Dylrob 06-05-2019, 05:51 PM
Quote tomsem
My take was that import (from attached storage) is not restricted to Photos as in the past. So you could carry around a thumb drive with all of your books on it, etc., mp3 files etc.

It’s up to app developers to support import for the files they want to work with. Presumably most will add this capability quickly.
That is correct. However Apple has never allowed import of files into the native video app, music app, or ringtones from iCloud, regardless. These are sandboxed off from the rest of the storage and require iTunes to access. Expanding external storage from DCIM camera importing to full file system support does not, in itself anyway, change this.

My biggest worry is that Apple is going to use this as an excuse to eliminate personal ringtones altogether, forcing us to use the store to get new ringtones.
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#36  kyteflyer 06-05-2019, 08:30 PM
Quote tomsem
Also: you’ll be able to purchase fonts in App Store. I am looking forward to being able to use these in reading apps, etc.
That would require the developers of those apps to allow it, wont it? I currently use Anyfont to get fonts into the iOS system that I prefer to read with but not all apps respect that. Apple's own Books doesnt. It only uses a subset of its own fonts. Maybe that will change. Kindle app doesnt. Hyphen does. yada yada.
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#37  tomsem 06-05-2019, 09:53 PM
Quote kyteflyer
That would require the developers of those apps to allow it, wont it? I currently use Anyfont to get fonts into the iOS system that I prefer to read with but not all apps respect that. Apple's own Books doesnt. It only uses a subset of its own fonts. Maybe that will change. Kindle app doesnt. Hyphen does. yada yada.
Yes, but I think Apple Books at least will work with it right away and Kindle will probably add it eventually since it is going to be more of a user expectation with Apple’s stamp of approval.
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#38  tomsem 06-05-2019, 10:14 PM
Quote Dylrob
That is correct. However Apple has never allowed import of files into the native video app, music app, or ringtones from iCloud, regardless. These are sandboxed off from the rest of the storage and require iTunes to access. Expanding external storage from DCIM camera importing to full file system support does not, in itself anyway, change this

My biggest worry is that Apple is going to use this as an excuse to eliminate personal ringtones altogether, forcing us to use the store to get new ringtones.
Those are not my use cases, but I understand your concerns. I have not synced anything using iTunes for a few years now.

Mine would be opening ePub or PDFs or .mobi or .docx files from external storage, which I assume would work the same as opening from cloud folder via sharing. So this is a plus for doing that.

What seems to be going away is ability to get content to 3rd party apps via iTunes. Unless that is supported by Finder somehow in Catalina: that would be ideal.
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#39  Dylrob 06-06-2019, 08:04 AM
Apple details how MacOS will handle iTunes content and device syncing post-iTunes.
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#40  tomsem 06-06-2019, 05:39 PM
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Apple details how MacOS will handle iTunes content and device syncing post-iTunes.
And the Apple document that explains things:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200
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