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#11  petercreasey 05-28-2010, 12:30 PM
I agree that having a 1-hour offering is irksome.
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#12  ardeegee 05-28-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm not marketing genius, but shouldn't it be a better plan to make your book easy for potential readers to access instead of really hard?

Quoting THHGttG:

"But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months."

"Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn't exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them, had you? I mean, like actually telling anybody or anything."

"But the plans were on display ..."

"On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."

"That's the display department."

"With a flashlight."

"Ah, well the lights had probably gone."

"So had the stairs."

"But look, you found the notice didn't you?"

"Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'."
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#13  thafrogggg 05-29-2010, 02:49 AM
Whether you agree with the way an author decided to promote his/her book, or do not agree, it is their choice in how they promote the book.

If you vehemently disagree with their promotion and feel the un-resistible urge to express these feelings; why not try a little constructive criticism? You know, the whole "more flies with honey" idea. Two folks did an excellent job of this and another did a decent job of concise, but un-offensive. The other replies are a sure fire way to dissuade authors from having promotions for their books, or at the very least, from announcing them here at Mobileread for fear of being flame sprayed because one or more people do not like the promotion.

A little tact goes a long way people.

@ Jake, while a I personally appreciate any promotion that allows me to read something by an author new to me, I do feel that Jinlo has a concern that I share.

Logging into the forum and seeing several one-hour only promos could possibly put people off as they may feel that having to watch the forums constantly for book promotions could be a bit bothersome. Most authors allow a promotion to run for at least one entire day, but maybe a twelve or even six-hour promotion would be easier on potential readers and reviewers.

Either way, thanks for the book promotion. I hope I get a chance to snag it (and write a review).
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#14  rogue_librarian 05-29-2010, 03:31 AM
Quote thafrogggg
Whether you agree with the way an author decided to promote his/her book, or do not agree, it is their choice in how they promote the book.
Oh, sure, but this being a discussion forum readers are welcome to voice their opinions, too. That's how I understood it, anyway.

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The other replies are a sure fire way to dissuade authors from having promotions for their books, or at the very least, from announcing them here at Mobileread for fear of being flame sprayed because one or more people do not like the promotion.
I didn't know (and generally don't think, actually) that writers were such a thin-skinned bunch...

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A little tact goes a long way people.
I have yet to see anything tactless in this thread. YMMV.
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#15  thafrogggg 05-29-2010, 03:46 AM
I agree with your first point although I do not see how my quoted text insinuates that no one should express his or her opinion.

Neither do I think authors are thin-skinned. If they were, critics would be an endangered species due to retribution.

I also agree with "YMMV"
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#16  Jake_Drake 05-29-2010, 04:59 AM
Well, I'm not going to respond to each person individually. There's too many posts for that. I will say in order to answer the concerns I see here that I chose Saturday, because I am not only off this Saturday, but the rest of my family is gone for the weekend and I have time to relax and do all I want to, not what everyone else wants. During the week I am too busy trying to cram a few hours of writing in before heading off to work and doing the various "honey-do" chores my wife has for me.

No one needs to lurk about in here wondering when I will make my book available. I was very concise and exact when I posted that it will be available for free from 1pm - 2pm Pacific Standard time and again the same night from midnight 12am - 1am. What's confusing about that? The only thing I hedged about was when someone suggested I make it available for people on the other side of the world from me, which is why I added the second time slot.

Why make it only one hour instead of an entire day? Hell if I know. It just seemed like a good idea. If I think there's any interest perhaps I'll make it available again or for a longer period today. I had my ebook "Pumpkin Jack Skull and Other Tales of Terror" for free on Smashwords for several months before charging for it. It made it to the top four on Smashwords for downloads.

Why have it on Smashwords where people have to go and register? Everywhere I have found (including this place) each person needs to register to use the place. It happens to be the place I discovered first where I could upload my books instead of having them waste away on my computer doing nothing. Smashwords is an extremely helpful and encouraging place for authors of every kind. Mark Coker, who started it, has answered each of my emails and been more than friendly and helpful.

My books are all available on Amazon.com, too, but as far as I know (I'm still new with Amazon) I can't offer my books for free there. If there's a way to do that, someone please let me know, but then again, anyone who isn't already registered with Amazon will have to register and their ebooks are available ONLY on Kindle. I don't even own a Kindle. Why should I expect anyone else to buy one just to read my books?
On Smashwords at least each person who doesn't own any type of ereader can download a story to their PC, like I do.

My ebooks are available on all the various ereaders (Thanks once again to Mark Coker and Smashwords), like iPad, KOBO, B&K. But as far as I know you have to have their particular ereader to read from their site. I don't own any ereader, so I don't know for sure.

Did I answer everything well enough?

If my promotion isn't to your liking - don't go and get my book. Doesn't matter to me. I don't read every book that comes along, either, free or not. I just thought it would be nice for people to be able to read it for free and would help me in promoting all of my books. Isn't that what this place is for, or am I mistaken in my understanding here? So why am I being dogged by angry, irritating people who don't want my books anyway? It's a simple fact: if you don't want to read my book, don't read it. No one is twisting your arm and I wouldn't even if I could.

I thank Ed O'Dell for giving me this idea. I at least thought it was a good idea and it got me to look at his book, even if it wasn't free any longer.

Is this enough of an answer?

Thanks for letting me rant on back at ya.
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#17  redhead231 05-29-2010, 07:21 AM
Good luck Jake, I have to admit, I did think, oh well thats another I wont be able to get as I am in the UK with a different time zone to USA, but its your book & you can do what you want with it.
As you have added another slot, then not so much of a problem. Its hard enough getting books in the UK, with all the DRM restrictions without waiting for time slots too.
Thanks anyway for the additional window.
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#18  abookreader 05-29-2010, 08:41 AM
Actually Jake this is what you said

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I haven't decided on the exact time yet. I work nights and sleep early morning, so it depends upon exactly when I get out of bed to get it started, but it most likely will be from 1pm-2pm (Pacific time). I will come on here and post the thread when it starts.
That is neither concise or exact as to the time and it very much does imply that we need to be here to find out when you're going to appear to make the deal valid. But people are right in that it is silly to squabble over a free offer.

I wish you great success with your book.
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#19  Ravensknight 05-29-2010, 09:40 AM
Quote Jake_Drake
If my promotion isn't to your liking - don't go and get my book. Doesn't matter to me. I don't read every book that comes along, either, free or not. I just thought it would be nice for people to be able to read it for free and would help me in promoting all of my books. Isn't that what this place is for, or am I mistaken in my understanding here? So why am I being dogged by angry, irritating people who don't want my books anyway? It's a simple fact: if you don't want to read my book, don't read it. No one is twisting your arm and I wouldn't even if I could.

Ooooh, now I really want to go and read your stuff.

I believe someone mentioned flies and honey earlier? Good luck anyway...
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#20  jinlo 05-29-2010, 10:34 AM
Quote Jake_Drake
If my promotion isn't to your liking - don't go and get my book. Doesn't matter to me. I don't read every book that comes along, either, free or not. I just thought it would be nice for people to be able to read it for free and would help me in promoting all of my books. Isn't that what this place is for, or am I mistaken in my understanding here? So why am I being dogged by angry, irritating people who don't want my books anyway? It's a simple fact: if you don't want to read my book, don't read it. No one is twisting your arm and I wouldn't even if I could.

It won’t help your cause to call people “irritating.” Even if the criticism isn’t constructive, learn from it or ignore it.

Also, this place is not just for your promotion. There are other authors here trying to promote their work and there are readers trying to find deals. If there is a potential problem with any promotion, it needs to be considered. This is a friendly place where people come to find deals of all sorts. It was not placed here simply to suit any particular author’s needs or expectations.

Again, I’m not sure if this one hour deal is a good idea or not. I do know that if authors start showing up every three days to announce their next “60 minute sale” this forum is going to be as useful as Twinkies to a nutritionist.
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