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Kobo Forma or Kindle Oasis?
#1  perisiana 12-09-2019, 11:10 AM
Hi, I've always had a Kobo (h20 in the last 4 years), I just bought a Kobo Forma which I had to return due to a very strong light strip issue.
I knew that Forma had this problem, but I literally fell in love with ergonomics and decided to take the risk, hoping that the problem was not very evident (or that I would have been more tolerant lol).
Unfortunately the other two Kobo Forma in the store had the same problem, and I am a bit discouraged to be able to find a Forma where the issue isn't so obvious (if not completely absent).
Now my dilemma is, Amazon sells the Kobo Forma for the same price as the Kindle Oasis here, and the return to Amazon is obviously much simpler than in a store.
Should I buy a Forma from Amazon, and continue to send them back until I find a device where the defect is acceptably slight?
In my Kobo the defect was always visible, except with the light completely turned off, if the problem had been visible only with the light over 50% I would have accepted it, I usually read with the light around 20%
Did any of you succeed in this? After how many attempts?
Or should I buy an Oasis, which has almost everything I like about the Forma (mobius screen with flush frames, lightness, ergonomics) but the software part lacks in some things that the Kobo has (collections, the ability to read the synopsis without opening the book)?
I could try the Kindle software and eventually return it if I don't feel good...However I wanted to try a Kindle for a long time, because I love its dictionaries and the possibility of using Kindle Unlimited.
In short, for those who switched from Kobo to Kindle, how did you feel? (most of my books are sideloaded)
And did anyone manage to find a (almost) perfect Forma without going crazy?
I'm really confused (and disappointed by my beloved Forma, such an expensive device should not have these problems).
Thanks!
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#2  Sirtel 12-09-2019, 11:25 AM
It would depend on how important those features are for you that the Kindle lacks. Personally I don't use collections and the synopsis, while nice to have, is not a must-have for me. So I'm satisfied with both devices. But if you rely heavily on Calibre collection management, for example, then you will probably be disappointed with the Kindle.

There's also one thing the Kindle has and the Kobo lacks - global search, i.e. searching for a word across your whole library, not only in one book. That's handy with multi-volume fantasy and SF series with hundreds of characters. I miss that on my Libra sometimes. But I guess it's not really important to people who have never used a Kindle.
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#3  perisiana 12-09-2019, 11:42 AM
Quote Sirtel
It would depend on how important those features are for you that the Kindle lacks. Personally I don't use collections and the synopsis, while nice to have, is not a must-have for me. So I'm satisfied with both devices. But if you rely heavily on Calibre collection management, for example, then you will probably be disappointed with the Kindle.
Yes this is my major concern, I use Caliber a lot, and even if my closet is a disaster, my library must always be very well organized lol
Quote Sirtel
There's also one thing the Kindle has and the Kobo lacks - global search, i.e. searching for a word across your whole library, not only in one book. That's handy with multi-volume fantasy and SF series with hundreds of characters. I miss that on my Libra sometimes. But I guess it's not really important to people who have never used a Kindle.
This seems like a very useful thing, I read a lot of series, I didn't know this features!
I am more and more tempted to try the oasis and see how it goes.
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#4  Sirtel 12-09-2019, 12:07 PM
Quote perisiana
Yes this is my major concern, I use Caliber a lot, and even if my closet is a disaster, my library must always be very well organized lol
I'm the same way (and my closets would strike horror in any but the bravest hearts ), but I don't need that organization on my devices, only in Calibre itself.
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#5  ottdmk 12-09-2019, 12:28 PM
One area you should consider is library support. You don't have your location listed in your mini-bio, but if you are outside the US Kindle library support is basically non-existant. Kobo's current models (including the Forma) have Overdrive support built in (for several countries) or can use Adobe Digital Editions software to import library books.
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#6  perisiana 12-09-2019, 02:04 PM
Quote ottdmk
One area you should consider is library support. You don't have your location listed in your mini-bio, but if you are outside the US Kindle library support is basically non-existant. Kobo's current models (including the Forma) have Overdrive support built in (for several countries) or can use Adobe Digital Editions software to import library books.
Here in Italy we have a strange, twisted system called MLOL, who would like to be like overdrive but it's so complicated that I prefer to go to the library and borrow physical books rather than use it.
So, unless Overdrive becomes supported in Italy two months after I buy a kindle (possible with my luck lol) it's not a problem.
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#7  JSWolf 12-09-2019, 02:28 PM
After using you2 H2O, you'll find you won't like the blandness of the Kindle firmware. The Kindle firmware is very lacking. It's not made for someone who wants to do more. It's made for someone who wants to do less.

Go for the Forma. If you do decide to try a Kindle, get ready to return it as you will not like it.

OH and if you have access to Overdrive at your library, a Kindle will be useless in Italy.
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#8  perisiana 12-09-2019, 03:46 PM
I would love to buy a Forma again, is a great device imho, but I was very disappointed with the last one I bought and the two with the same problem in the store.
Can't believe that such a expensive device has such poor quality control, at this point I am almost sure that I should return the Forma to Amazon at least three or four times before finding a device where the defect is slight enough for me to keep it...
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#9  JSWolf 12-09-2019, 04:26 PM
Quote perisiana
I would love to buy a Forma again, is a great device imho, but I was very disappointed with the last one I bought and the two with the same problem in the store.
Can't believe that such a expensive device has such poor quality control, at this point I am almost sure that I should return the Forma to Amazon at least three or four times before finding a device where the defect is slight enough for me to keep it...
You'd be even more disappointed with a Kindle.
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#10  soulfuldog 12-09-2019, 04:31 PM
Since you've already tried a few Forma's and been unhappy, why don't you try an Oasis instead and see what you think of it? There's most definitely not as many configuration options to tinker with as there is on a Kobo, as it's the king of customisation, but to say its bland and lacking.... well as it comes from JS Wolf, that kind of comment is no surprise.

On the other hand, if you use collections a lot on your device itself, as Sirtel says that is one feature you would really miss as the interaction between collections in Calibre and on the device isn't there with a Kindle. Although if you read lots of books in series, you can look at using metadata plugboards in Calibre to sort your books.

If you find you don't like it, or aren't happy with the screen on the Oasis either, return it and then re-try the Forma (and hopefully find one you like within 2 or 3 returns as I'd be wary about returning too many!).
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