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#1  impasto 09-23-2020, 09:50 PM
Recently Hitch asked me why I need fixed layout. As I currently don't use pop-up views, the reading experience was my main issue: you have to double-click an image before pinch-zoom starts working, this gets annoying pretty quick.
Well, today I checked a book in reflowable format on my android phone and Android tablet, and the pinch zoom now work without double-clicking! I'm sure this wasn't the case a few weeks ago. So this is either a coincidence or programmers from Amazon read this forum, and respond constructively, and they updated Android Kindle app. This is actually a very good news.

Now, dear Amazon programmers, could you apply the same fix to e-inks? The problem remains on my Paperwhite with reflowable format.


Another request to Amazon:
Could you enable internal hyperlinks (and htmltoc links) in fixed layout on e-inks? Or at least make the hyperlinks passive, i.e. do nothing in e-inks. Currently, on Paperwhite, clicking a hyperlink in fixed layout moves to the very next page, no matter which item of htmltoc you click. This would be so helpful.
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#2  impasto 09-23-2020, 10:38 PM
EDIT- I think there is more to it. My sample book in reflowable format still required double-tapping an image before pinch zoom starts working (in Android app), but a book by Charles Spender, which looks reflowable, doesn't require double-tapping on images. I guess I have to figure out how to do it.
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#3  jhowell 09-23-2020, 11:13 PM
Which book are you referring to?

A pinch gesture in reflowable book text will change the font size in Kindle apps and devices. Is that what you are seeing?
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#4  impasto 09-23-2020, 11:53 PM
Charles Spindle: 'Children's books and comics'
and
Will Eisner 'Contract with God'
To me they look reflowable, am I right?
Pinch zoom on Paperwhite activates font-size change, but on android app it activates image zoom.
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#5  jhowell 09-24-2020, 07:22 AM
I tried the pinch gesture on an image in the Android app and I now see what you mean. I agree that it would be nice if that worked more consistently in the Kindle apps and devices.
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#6  Hitch 09-24-2020, 10:43 AM
Quote jhowell
I tried the pinch gesture on an image in the Android app and I now see what you mean. I agree that it would be nice if that worked more consistently in the Kindle apps and devices.
(sigh). Yes, and I'm SURE that the method and software for making all those various fixed-layout books must ALL BE THE SAME, RIGHT??????

Hitch
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#7  Hitch 09-24-2020, 10:45 AM
Quote impasto


Another request to Amazon:
Could you enable internal hyperlinks (and htmltoc links) in fixed layout on e-inks? Or at least make the hyperlinks passive, i.e. do nothing in e-inks. Currently, on Paperwhite, clicking a hyperlink in fixed layout moves to the very next page, no matter which item of htmltoc you click. This would be so helpful.
I reported this to Amazon--directly to Seattle, not "KDP,"--over 18 months ago, so lotsa luck with that.

Hitch
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#8  hobnail 09-24-2020, 02:43 PM
Quote Hitch
I reported this to Amazon--directly to Seattle, not "KDP,"--over 18 months ago, so lotsa luck with that.

Hitch
Looking at all of the gizmos they announced today it makes me wonder how many of the Kindle programmers wear two hats; one for Kindle and the other for Echo, Fire Stick, Alexa, etc. If so, I'd imagine that Kindle support gets lower priority.
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#9  Hitch 09-24-2020, 03:21 PM
Quote hobnail
Looking at all of the gizmos they announced today it makes me wonder how many of the Kindle programmers wear two hats; one for Kindle and the other for Echo, Fire Stick, Alexa, etc. If so, I'd imagine that Kindle support gets lower priority.
They've known that their K4Mac app has a bug--the toc.html doesn't work, past the third entry on the TOC--for 2 years.

I reported the whole, links don't ork in FXL made with KC and some of their other DIY apps, 18-35 months ago (various dates for various apps).

The links don't work thing is pretty simple--the FXL "print replica" is nothing but images. Not searchable text; one image after another. How can a link work in that environment?

In the old KKBC, you could make working links on any page, as long as the link itself wasn't in the popup box. Again, same/similar issue; the json was popping up the page, no linking functionality available AND you can't put a link, in an image, in Kindle. (And only remotely successfully make an image AS a link, in reflow.)

That also, btw--for anybody here that gives a s**t about the actual technology, affects how the images work and zoom--because, if you create an image AS a link--which people do--the activation for the link is DIFFERENT than the zoom functionality.

Hitch
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#10  impasto 09-25-2020, 01:17 AM
Quote Hitch
The links don't work thing is pretty simple--the FXL "print replica" is nothing but images. Not searchable text; one image after another. How can a link work in that environment?
Hitch
I tend to do things somehow differently than others, so my ebook is different than what you anticipated: In addition to the images (i.e. normal pages), I have chapter pages containing text (title of the chapter) and some graphics. The htmlTOC has links to these chapter pages (and the title page), but not the normal pages containing a single image only). Example:
htmltoc.html:
Code
...
</head>
<body>
<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
<p><a href="content_title.html#h1-t">Title Page</a></p>
<p><a href="content_chapter1.html#h2-1">Chapter 1</a></p>
<p><a href="content_chapter2.html#h2-2">Chapter 2</a></p>
</body>
</html>
chapter file:
Code
...
<body>
<div id="h2-1"><h2>Chapter 1</h2></div>
<div> <p><br /></p> <p class="centered"><img width="30%" alt="chapter 1" src="../images/chapterSquare360_ch1.jpg"/></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
normal-page file:
Code
...
<body>
<div> <img style="height:100%;" alt="page 1_2- secondTower" src="../images/SecondTower2_720-WATER.jpg"/>
</div>
...
The code above (with some minor formatting changes) works fine on Android app in both the fixed layout and the reflowable version.


Quote Hitch
That also, btw--for anybody here that gives a s**t about the actual technology, affects how the images work and zoom--because, if you create an image AS a link--which people do--the activation for the link is DIFFERENT than the zoom functionality.

Hitch
With the code you see above, how would you expect the images in my normal pages to act upon pinch zoom on android app: zoom the image or increase font size only?
Answer: it increases the font size.
What would you suggest to modify to zoom the image instead?
P.s. this is a reflowable version we're talking about now.
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