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Writing Software/Apps for E-Ink Android Tablets ??
#1  jgbout 03-05-2021, 03:57 PM
So, I've littered up some forums trying to figure out pros/cons of some devices, which I've now gotten down to Boox Note 3 or Likebook Alita, both 10.3" Android.

The BIGGER Question has come up if my "hopes" are even doable, because of the software.

I want to "replace" my PC desktop writing setup with a 10.3" E-Ink Android Tablet + BT Keyboard. The E-Ink Tablet is to be the ONLY device, from start to formatted finish (no rough writing on Tablet and finish on the PC.)

(1) I wanted to be able to use MS Word & gDocs for novel and game writing, and something for script writing.

However....

It appears MS Word is likely NOT an option. I won't pay for 365, and the Free Android App only works on under 10.1" devices. Only option is the web-based office.com which is the same as the android app, BUT I can not imagine using a Web Based (browser) service is realistic for E-Ink Tablets.

I'm not sure yet if Google Docs has an Android App to launch it or not -- that would be a big plus if so, because gDoc is very Word compatible.

Other than that ???

(2) And, outside of Web (browser) based scriptwriting (screenwriting) options, I don't know of any Android Apps (especially free, or very low cost.)

Are there any realistic, long term, large project solutions to make this a reality and not just a future pipe dream?
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#2  gmw 03-06-2021, 12:22 AM
I'm not particularly interested in portable device only solutions so I can't help directly, but I strongly suspect that this requirement:
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The E-Ink Tablet is to be the ONLY device, from start to formatted finish (no rough writing on Tablet and finish on the PC.
is the real hurdle that you face, especially if you are going to exclude web-based and commercial options.

I wouldn't even hold my breath for a future pipe dream on this.
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#3  Quoth 03-06-2021, 08:29 AM
Forget final formatting. There are zero decent programs for that on iOS or Android.
You need a laptop with Linux, Mac OS or Windows, with either LO Writer, or maybe older versions of MS Word.
If you are not swapping the SAME document with a Word User every other day, then LO Writer from LibreOffice 6.x series is the best solution now. Learn how paragraph styles work and levels work.
You only need page styles for paper output via built in PDF.

You need Calibre or Sigil to make ebooks, basically epub2 as that is the upload format for Amazon also. Recently using odt to Calibre seems to work as well as Save As (additionally) in docx and convert in Calibre.

Jota is fine for basic editing on Android eink. Absolutely forget formatting. You need a 1600 x 1200 or 1920 x 1080 screen minimum, much more CPU and RAM than most ereaders or tablets and no full featured wordprocessor works well on eink.

There aren't even any commercial or Web based options that will do what you want, even on a 10" eink tablet, never mind more affordable 7" and 8".

I had even a Win10 tablet with MS Office and it was rubbish compared to a real laptop from 2002 (1600 x 1200 P4 mobile) or from 2016 (1920 x 1080 non-glare screen, i5 with AMD GPU, 500G HDD, 8 G RAM and about €600!).

You'd buy a Likebook Mars (7.8" eink Android, SD card), a 10" Lenovo Tablet, A 7" Kobo Libra, a decent BT keyboard and a moderately good laptop for the price of a decent 10" eink and decent keyboard.
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#4  jgbout 03-06-2021, 11:31 AM
So, going with a computer based option, just isn't an option.
I have a chromebook if I just want to create and finish in say Officve.com (web-based Word).

To this point I've always just used MS Word on my desktop, or, gDocs from my browser, for short and long projects.

So, I'm afraid I'm not understanding why you say there's just not enough power, etc... to use an e-ink tablet? The larger tablets have as much power (almost) as my current microPC which is only an n3xxx series processor.

What is the hangup?

I mean, I found there is a Google Docs App, so full gDocs is available, and there are novelists who only use gDocs.

The only formatting is basic spacing, numbering, and at most a bit of "bold" or "italics," etc...

This is confusing......
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#5  jgbout 03-06-2021, 11:32 AM
@gmw- I'm not exclusing commerical or web-based.
I see a number of commercial offerings are very inexpensive, so that's good. And web-based... I was "assuming" using a web-based, like Office.com was a problem for e-ink, having to be on the internet and render webpages. Am I wrong?
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#6  JSWolf 03-06-2021, 11:51 AM
Quote jgbout
@gmw- I'm not exclusing commerical or web-based.
I see a number of commercial offerings are very inexpensive, so that's good. And web-based... I was "assuming" using a web-based, like Office.com was a problem for e-ink, having to be on the internet and render webpages. Am I wrong?
Do you know anyone with an Android device? If so, ask if you can install a web browser and try a web based word process and see how well it works. If it works, it might work on an Android Reader. But don't buy one you cannot return.
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#7  jgbout 03-06-2021, 11:57 AM
Thanks Jon.
I used to use Android Tablets (and was a drop seller too). Of course my phone is android. And, even though I'm currently on a PC, everything I do is based in the browser. Rarely I'll bring up Notepad or Word, and again, for word processing, it's very basic. Just "novel" formatting.

That's why I'm not sure why folks say e-reader/writer tabs in particular can't ?

I've seen youtube videos, but they aren't very extensive, which means, did they stick with it afterwards, or was it a novelty?

Buying... that's the kicker... nothing local. There's Goodereader store (based in Canada, ships from China & Japan,) Ebay and very limited Amazon (but have to use the USA version and I don't think there's buyer protection across border.)

So, it's buyer beware basically - and why I'm hounding.., I mean researching so strongly.
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#8  JSWolf 03-06-2021, 12:21 PM
The Android based Readers I have would not do for what you want. They are too old, too old a version of Android, and too small a screen.

The problem comes in that you cannot do everything on an eInk Android Reader. If you need color for color images, that's out. If you want to go from the finished story to to eBook, that's out. So no matter how much you can do, you will need a proper computer at some point. And that is not a Chromebook or an Android eInk Reader.
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#9  jgbout 03-06-2021, 12:24 PM
Jon. I don't need color, just old fashion text on paper, so to speak.
But you say you can not turn a work into an epub using an android tablet OR a Chromebook?

I thought one of the things about the Chromebook was that there were apps or web-based that could convert ?
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#10  Pajamaman 03-06-2021, 12:58 PM
If you buy Onyx, I suggest buying directly from Onyx, or from booxter in Germany. That way, if you get a lemon, you will be able to get it repaired / replaced. Booxter also does Likebook.
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